So this one article, about this one e-bike, says to you that ALL e-bikes lack refinement and therefore aren't worthy of you gracing them with your holy ass? In terms of improvements, EP8 is marginally lighter (300g) and smaller in volume (10%) over the old E8000 motor. While weve certainly been impressed by the power, ride feel and tuneability of the Shimano EP8 system, how does it stack up against the likes of Bosch and Brose/Specialized? Can't see the equivalent of a ribbed chainstay protector happening. The metallurgic analysis was conducted to discover root cause. The MasterMind TCU head unit on the top tube is also as good as it gets, with a sharp and clear, but unobtrusive display that reduces clutter on the handlebars. Are we ignoring the fact that motor has been recalled/reworked by Shimano, and pushing all new bike deliveries by two months (at least)? The compact size and a magnesium casing helped cut 300 grams. I was sure it was a motor issue till I realized I needed to put the speed sensor on the new wheel. 1. Thanks to lightweight magnesium components, Shimano has shaved off a cool 200g of weight making it one of the lightest electric bike motors on the market today. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Aside from the sound of the clutch, everything else in the "CONS" list can be fixed with software updates. Quick everyone, it's another article about e-bikes grab the pitchforks! Why don't they buy dirtbikes instead ? I run the previous version steps e8000 and I think it's brilliant. Not everyone has the time to grind for an hour up the climb. Mine gets very hot. Dont be so lazy, put in the work and suffer a little bit! The inspection is done by removing the crank arms, thoroughly cleaning the spindle, and closely . Theres still a whirring noise from the metallic gears inside, and the pitch increases slightly at higher cadences. I'm honestly flabbergasted that people complain about it tbh lol. But to give you some numbers, weve consistently achieved around 1,500m of climbing during our 30-50km test rides. Couldn't agree more. A kilometre later that estimation dropped to 14km, then not long after to 9km, then to 5km, before the motor automatically switched into emergency limp home mode. People know you're not running some old E8000 or E7000 motor. Maybe in a next generation they can implement an optional solution analog to what we're already seeing f bicycle chains. The complaints of charge bars on the display and the bike starting without any assistance are non issues for me. Simply named by Specialized as the 2.2, the motor continues to offer 90Nm of peak torque, and externally it has the same mounting points and overall shape. However, we couldnt get the display to pair with our Wahoo ELMNT Roam head unit. I have no personal experience riding with pedal assist but when I hear the high whiz from the motor I think that would drive me mad too. The Purion controller is vastly simpler and easy to read, but it looks cheap and its bulky, making it an awkward fit with brake and dropper levers. In the end, our test data supports that the root cause is not e*thirteen cranks as Shimano has indicated. On top of that, you cant tune the Bosch motor like you can with EP8 theres no fancy app, and the stock assist settings arent adjustable at all. But please don't anyone kid themselves that it's as much of a work out as an analogue bike, if there was no mechanical advantage over analogue what would be the benefit. If a Commencal customer has been unfortunate enough to experience the EP8 spindle failure this article is discussing, the brand told us its warranty programme means Commencal would assume all responsibility for getting the customers bike running again. We have Shimano crank arms in stock, and every customer contacting us from now can get them for free and save some troubles with their spindle, says Commencal. Yeah but who needs all that power? Rattling and lack of update to the battery monitoring is a no go for me, I would just upgrade the battery to the new 620s if i could fit it. From what I get from the article, what would actually bother me more is how it kicks in from a standstill or trackstand. Its a little different though, with Orbea detuning the motors power and assistance to improve efficiency so it can use a smaller and lighter 360Wh battery. Maybe 10 days from when I sent them an email and a new motor arrived at my doorstep. I had the same issue with my Yamaha but it was last winter. The three EP8 bikes weve tested all have sub-440mm rear centre lengths, which is quite a bit shorter than the 471.5mm rear centre on the Giant Trance X E+ with its much bulkier Yamaha motor, for example. Still, given the lengths that bike and drivetrain manufacturers have gone to stealthify mountain bikes over the past few years, we found the noisy EP8 motor to be infuriating during the first few rides just as we did with the Bosch Gen 4. Overall very pleased with the bike and the motor. I own the Levo SL, and it is the most refined ebike I have ridden so far. Also a big improvement over the prior motor is that the EP8 freewheels easily, so on flats or downhill you can blast away without motor resistance. Damn, sorry to hear this especially since I own the same bike! And just read any car review of the blend between regenerative braking and hydraulic, then decide whether you want a computer deciding to regen as you roll off a drop regen braking is pretty much impossible on an ebike as it requires the use of a direct drive motor. Funny that Shimano now budget e-bike motor builds? You've been subscribed to our newsletter. In the bulletin, e*thirteen states it stands by its products and is confident that our pedal cranks are not the source of the issue. This reduced the tendency for the front wheel to lift on really steep tech climbs. - Lightweight and small form factor Some claim it's a dangerous motor that suffers spindle failures. Also the bikes will be heavy as f*ck with an 820Wh battery. I read a similar story around christmas on an other forum. That results in a big improvement in how far you can go on the same battery capacity - Shimano claims a 20% increase in range as a result. Shimano EP8 Motor Rattling Noise - The TRUTH Riding With Sebastian 447 subscribers Subscribe 20K views 1 year ago In this video I ride my Commencal Meta Power 2021 E-Bike and I tell you the truth. If the other brands we contacted reply to our enquiries, we will be sure to update this article. This BT-8036 battery only needs a 4mm hex key to be released from the frame for charging separately, which is unlike Bosch that requires a special key (potentially something else to lose/forget). More powerful:The new Shimano EP8 puts out 85 Nm of torque, 15 Nm more than its predecessor, the Shimano STEPS E8000. Improving performance on undulating terrain, Shimano has also increased the EP8s available torque at lower cadences. - Low-drag performance Going the right direction in weight reduction. An E-bike with 200 watt power assist, 350 WH battery, and total weight of bike under 34 lbs. Hes one of BikeRadars lead testers and knows how to push bikes and products to the limit, searching out the equipment that represents the best value for money. Truly unfortunate you lost it. Shimano EP8 is smaller and lightweight It's not just the motor housing that is smaller but also the inner workings of the EP8 motor. Dank leichter Magnesium-Komponenten konnte Shimano ganze 200 g Gewicht einsparen, was ihn zu einem der leichtesten E-Bike-Motoren auf dem Markt macht. The way the 2.2 motor smooths out un-smooth rider input is very impressive, giving it the most natural feel on the trail of any full-power motor weve tested. Seems quite useful for when pushing the bike up these impossible climbs. Looks like Rocky(Dyname), Giant(Yamaha) and Specialized(Brose) are in for 2021 and Shimano and Bosch are out. - Available on a wide-range of different e-MTBs, - Clacking noise can be annoying The maximum rider support was raised to 400%, compared to the E8000's 300%. It's really, really quite quiet. Now well point out here that the Bosch Gen 4 motor exhibits a similar metallic clacking noise, since its internal gear system also employs a clutch. As well as being smaller, lighter and more efficient, the new EP8 drive unit also packs more punch with up to 85Nm of torque, bringing it up to speed with the latest power plants from Bosch, Yamaha and Brose/Specialized. Personally, were ok with downshifting and spinning our way up a steep incline its better for the health of your knees, and its likely better for the health of the motor too. Take note of how much elevation you achieve during those rides (elevation is more important than distance when determining range), and keep that number in mind when youre planning future all-day epics. So far neither Shimano nor e*thirteen are assuming any replacement, but of course we dont let our customers down, says Commencal. What is rattling? e*thirteen claims this issue has been misinterpreted by some to mean there is a failure of one or more system components. it's been quite awhile and still no fix . Im the worlds biggest ebike fan & I quite agree. Regardless ebike or "normal" MTB. Appreciate the level of detail in this article, good work. It even surpasses them in terms of noise (very quiet under load) and weight. Elsewhere on the forum, some riders report e*thirteen pedal cranks falling off the EP8 bottom bracket spindle (here and here), the exact issue TSB 156 addresses. Both bikes were fitted with e*thirteen cranks. - Numerous battery options, both from Shimano & 3rd parties The svelte motor casing provides more clearance for the rear wheel and suspension components, allowing brands to build their bikes with shorter chainstays. If speed and maximum power output is less of a concern though, switching into the factory Eco mode is a sure-fire way to get more ride time expect range to double from those figures above. When we see failures like this, it is incumbent on us to find the root cause and, if it is within our control, provide a resolution, reads e*thirteens statement. Overall it is a very refined system though. What this article says to me is no wonder people make fun of mountain bikers. "Unquestionably, Shimano has the cleanest and sleekest display integration on the market". Alex moved to Morzine in the French Alps at 19 to pursue a career as a bike bum and clocked up an enormous amount of riding. At my age 69, if it isn't fun, exciting, and challenging, count me out! All I could find is that bike manufacturers are to hold off selling the EP8 until Oct/Nov while they addresses some final issues. Wed much rather see battery life displayed as a percentage, and the option to customise the screen. In the lower settings, youll have to pedal really hard to get maximum support the motor. You can hear it in the workshop just by lifting the rear wheel and dropping it on the ground, where it sounds a bit like a loose pebble bouncing around inside a wooden box. Along with a new larger 630Wh battery option, plus updated hardware and software, Shimano certainly hasnt held back with its much-anticipated return fire on the highly competitive and fast-moving electric mountain bike market. Bikers Edge in Kaysville Utah hooked it up and took a motor off their demo heckler mx and put it on mine. I suppose pedal assist allows you to tackle the more fun/steep/tech climbs but to be effective it needs to be subtle too. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. These motors have Cadence sensors as well as torque sensors. 5Nm doesnt sound like much on paper, but on the trail the Levos 2.2 motor is noticeably musclier than Shimano EP8, particularly at the extreme ends of the cadence spectrum. Alex then moved back to the UK and put his vast knowledge of mountain biking to good use by landing a job working for MBUK magazine as features editor. The Shimano EP8 RS of the Orbea Rise does not present physical differences concerning the EP8 that we can see mounted on other e-mtb's. Its dimensions and weight are the same. Though the new EP8 motor is claimed to be more efficient than its predecessor, there is of course more power too. - Tuning options are simple and effective This is part of our COMMENCAL Care program, we consider a warranty case should have no cost at all for any of our customers.. Total power isnt quite as brutish as Bosch and Brose, but the real beauty about EP8 is that it retains the smooth and intuitive performance that we loved about the old motor. At full charge in Trail mode it says range is 90km or so but I haven't put that to the test on more mellow trail days but am sure others have. As discussed in e*thirteens TSB 157, the cracking and eventual failure of EP8 spindles is something that happens over time through repeated use. There are a lot of factors that influence range including rider weight, tyre choice, trail conditions, and elevation. Seeing if anyone else out there has had problems with their EP8. The brand was made aware of failures occurring when the EP8 motor is used with pedal cranks made by brands other than Shimano, including e*thirteens e*spec ebike-specific cranks. If a dynamo can be worked into the wheel hubs, you may even get near perpetual charging while the system is in use. With that said, all my riding is tough climbs and steep descents, without an e-bike would be walking up a bunch of it. While some frames will resonate more than others, the noise is otherwise normal, and it doesnt take long before your brain subconsciously ignores it. But overall EP8 offers more of a quieter and gentler hum than the whine of the E8000 motor, and its also quieter than the Bosch motor too. Additionally, Shimano produces a smaller and lighter 504Wh option, which is also cheaper and helps to bring the complete bike price down see the sub-$8K Polygon Mt Bromo N8 for example. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Shimanos overarching advice is for consumers to only use Shimano-approved pedal cranks on its EP8 motors. In a closed Facebook group called Shimano EP8 Owners, there are also reports of EP8 spindle failures. Shimano says it provides up to 350-percent support (in Boost mode versus the E8000's 300 percent). Ebikes are great as a self shuttle, especially for time limited people. Can I give 100 upvotes please? No ebike is perfect, this is a thread dedicated to sharing known issues or problems with electric motors from Shimano, their STePS system, as well as any help and solutions you know of. Weve found the first two settings to be too weak for e-MTB use, though conversely the highest setting can feel a little too peaky for some riders. It isnt a huge difference, but sometimes its just enough for your rear wheel to make it up and over a stubborn tree root or rock ledge. Its considerably bulkier than Shimano EP8, dominating the Levos frame profile while also putting limitations on rear wheel clearance. As it stands, you have to use the small button at the base of the display to manually scroll through additional pages just to see your cadence, estimated range and the time. This means its impossible to tell whether you have 21% or 49% battery remaining. I tested a few Merida bikes with Shimano motor and they have some bugs in first versions,quite annoying stupid things force you to reset the bike sometimes. Generally on bikes we spend so little time braking that regeneration would be a waste of effort. If thats the case for you, start at Level 5 and work your way down a notch at a time. Step 2 - Identify if preload caps have a pre-applied threadlocker patch and apply if necessary. Commencal which has sold a number of its Meta Power electric bikeswith an EP8 motor and e*thirteen crank combination replied to our inquiries. I've had a go on ebikes and think they're fantastic and good fun. @tomdesoals: I don't quite get it though. If you have a problem you can reapair it very quick. Mkay? It claims there have been no reported failures of Shimanos E7000 and E8000 motor spindles, even when used with the same e*spec ebike cranks. This allows bike companies to engineer a single frame, while offering cheaper models with a 504Wh battery, and high-end models with a 630Wh battery. For a lighter pedal feel than the E8000, the one-way bearing has reduced its rotational resistance, creating a free play. Don't take things too seriously just get out there and enjoy whatever you own and have FUN! Anyone knows what's are those white (ish) shoes the reviewer is using on some of the pics? Regular motor inspections and general servicing should be carried out on the bike as per the manufacturers recommendations to help spot any potential damage before it leads to failure. My take away besides the obviously pro/con talking points was the weight of the bike. No, you're running the latest EP8. Stab happy!". Weve checked each of their axle spindles and can confirm none are showing any signs of cracking or damage. Some say it's unreliable with a high risk of getting bricked. You also need a special key to release the battery from the frame, which were not fans of, at least for a mountain bike anyway. That is, spme pretension or a clutch like system. 2b - If threadlock patch is present, move on to step 3. Certainly of all the full-power motors weve tested, Shimano EP8 affords the most seamless feel as the power fades in and out around the assistance cutoff. Their new ride algorithms make the EP8 one of the most natural feeling motors out there, with plenty of power to propel the bike over obstacles, even if Bosch and Brose are still a bit punchier and deliver slightly more power. This occurs if the cap is not correctly tightened or the factory-fitted threadlock hasnt been adequately applied, and if the crank arms pinch bolts arent tightened to their correct torque. The problem I have is on the EP8 motor there are 3 ports, 1 for the speed sensor, 1 for the cycling computer and 1 for the derailleur. Basically any minor impact that causes the chain to bounce and tug at the chainring will result in noise. One note on range Shimanos range estimation is not reliable. The DIODE has the Shimano E8000 motor and both bikes regardless of motor specs and differences do one thing really, really wellthey make riding FUN! Of course this means it also clacks when coasting over rough terrain, though again, weve gotten used to it within a couple of rides. However the motor operation itself is fabulous, smooth, powerful, feels natural when you ride, you can cover ground like crazy in this thing. Currently, I own two e-bikes with a new 2022 Moustache Samedi 26 Fat 4 with the Bosch Motor on its way. Shimano's EP8 is claimed to have 85Nm of torque and provide up to 500w of peak power, and amplifies rider input by up to 400 per cent. Simply enjoy what you are riding and watch the world, I should say, e-bike world, pass you by, as they are here to stay and while they are not perfect they are probably the best and most exciting thing to happen to the bike industry in 50 years! Upon a little digging on the internet, it appears that this functionality is only on offer for Garmin users. No, not at all. I don't know anyone that likes a bike that rattles in any way or form. Thanks! They could have gone "yeah the rattling sucks but we hope you appreciate the motor nonetheless" but instead they composed this pure poetry. So when the new version is so much better Refinement is all relative. Did some rides on a scott e-genius 920(2020) and my biggest one I did was a 115 km with 2000 meters of ascent ,19 km average speed,all in the eco mode and riding some rocky terrain with some tarmac ,fire roads ,very mixed terrain ,and I did got impressed with the power and the range ,didnt got me so tired on the legs its most a cardio ,but dont put more power on them and no more battery capacity,cause it wil make them almost a dirt bike :-((. The new EP8 drive unit provides incredibly quiet assistance under pedal load. I've already posted this on the Commencal Meta SX Power thread, but wondered if other bikes with the Shimano EP8 motor and battery have seen a similar problem. For a mechanic, mechanical noise is a no-no by the end of the ride Id be destroyed mentally! You dont necessarily go further, but you will be riding and climbing faster. Here youll find three sliding scales for each of the three assist modes (thats Eco, Trail and Boost). Over the past six months of riding, the Shimano EP8 motor has really impressed us with just how much punch it delivers from such a lightweight and compact package. Updating our software will allow you to change the factory parameters of the new motor from Shimano. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. there are no additional ports on the SC-E5003 to connect the switch with. Both Shimano and e*thirteen recommend that you contact the place of purchase, which will be best-placed to investigate whether the failure is covered under either Shimanos or the bike manufacturers warranty. It doesn't feel good. Climbs really well and descends like a beast. What is Shimanos take on e*thirteens metallurgic analysis findings? While the motor is both more sensitive and more powerful though, Shimano has done brilliantly to offer usable control of that power. Purchased an SC Bullit in march and I now have 520 miles on it. Ive only charged 2x. Save 30% + G-Form Pro X3 Knee Pads when you subscribe to MBUK magazine. All bikes [have been] assembled with Shimano cranks since 2021 April.. However, the brand refutes a link between the preload caps undoing and any resulting damage to system components in TSB 156, and then goes on to affirm e*thirteen components are not the source of any failures in TSB 157. This is because the assistance drops off quite quickly when you stop pedalling, particularly compared to the Bosch motor, which continues to push on for just a fraction longer. - High quality display & controller Save 30% + G-Form Pro X3 Knee Pads when you subscribe to MBUK magazine. I've spent some time on this motor and it's one of the first to feel organic in the way it adjusts to the rider's pedaling. If you discover damage on your EP8 spindle, you should stop riding the bike immediately. Independent analysis alleges defects as the cause of cracked and snapped EP8 BB spindles. It was one of the most fun bikes to ride. Bunny hops were absolutely a blast on this bike. Local shop worked with shimano and got motor replaced and back to me in 3 days. Can they make it swappable with a gear box? Power less, battery smaller, it lighter is.. Would "every time you push the on switch" have been more understandable? I have the EP8 on a Commencal Meta Power. We see some comments about how bad the Shimano EP8 motor is. Smaller:Compared to the previous model, the EP8's volume has been reduced. Bosch's Performance Line CX equals Shimano's torque,. Annoying rattle, did anyone say that to Shimano when they first introduced the freewheel? Recalled but still was delivered with the rattle. Put on i9 Hydra hubs, annoying motor rattle sounds disappears. The YT Decoy also utilises its own 520Wh battery and the the Orbea Rise is built around a smaller 360Wh battery. A dynamo and regenerative braking is the ONLY thing stopping from buying an e-bike? So then it gets really confusing as it seems like the first bar lasts 30% and the last one 10%. -- Wild Bill. Update. The actual mechanism works well but is very easy to break, just turn the allen key the wrong way by mistake..it also gets clogged with mud and doesn't work, then you break it trying to release the battery, Sometimes, you need to go fast enough that the trail is a blur to find clarity. That's worse to, because 20kg dead weight doesn't contribute like 20kg of normal, muscle-laden body mass. This adjustment has the biggest impact on the motors performance and your total range. The EM800 display features built-in Bluetooth and ANT+ wireless connectivity for pairing both your phone and a compatible GPS head unit, allowing you to display information such as battery life and remaining range. Assistance Character This adjusts the motors support level, which is how easily the motor delivers its power based on your input. Otherwise I do not care. [The] topic has been closed from Shimano[s] side but e*thirteen is still investigating with independent labs.. I thought ebikes were supposed to enable us to do more fun stuff in less time. If you woild like to commute a long distance to work instead of driving and would like to do so using an e hybrid or similar, I understand. The Brose Mag S motor has been used in the Specialized Levo and Kenevo since 2018, though it was recently updated for the release of the new Levo. Also worth noting is that you can create two riding profiles, which you can alternate between via the menu and push-button on the display. In the higher settings, the motor will deliver maximum power without you having to pedal very hard at all. Alex Evans is BikeRadars senior mountain bike technical editor. I tried to find out the cause of this. On my older gen Bosch motor with a 500wh battery I can get about 30 miles out of a battery charge if I only turbo up the steepest climbs and do the other bits in low/mid power settings (and I'm about 100kg's / 16 stone which sucks battery). Hey Ralf Hauser!! Do you think it could be only an issue with Carbon frames then? Shimano's EP8, short for DU-EP800, features a higher maximum torque of 85Nm compared to the older E8000's 70Nm, topping it by an extra 21%. , mechanical noise is a no-no by the end of the most bikes. The screen dangerous motor that suffers spindle failures have fun display integration the. Motor on its way metallic gears inside, and challenging, count me out f * ck an. Influence range including rider weight, tyre choice, trail conditions, and elevation s. 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