There'll no doubt be someone on here who knows, one way or the other. Antrim Princess Sealink ferry underway in Larne with Sealink letters. The government has promised to base the organisation outside London to promote economic growth and skills in a region beyond the capital. I can sort of understand lumping Moorgate services in with London Overground, but LNER to Kings Lynn has been suggested many times without any compelling reason as to why, beyond "something something intercity standard. And why call it G-BR if it's nothing like BR? The Double Arrow is used for stations on maps, so that's really a no-brainer frankly. Great Britain's railway system was built by private companies, but it was nationalised by the Transport Act 1947 and was run from then onwards by British Railways (which traded as British Rail from 1965) until privatisation, which was begun in 1994 and completed in 1997. | Page 27 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. That's a different argument (which I disagee with but that's not for this thread). its going to be at least 6 months before we even get a branding document, and IMO over 2 years before we get any new liveries or Humbrol paints. In 2001, as passenger work for diesel locomotives operated by Virgin CrossCountry came to an end, a number of their Class 47s were painted in "heritage" liveries that they had carried in the past, including the former D1733, now 47853, which once again carried a near-correct version of the XP64 livery. JavaScript is disabled. A number of sets of coaching stock and a handful of locomotives received the livery, as well as most new multiple units and some existing ones. (60163 still carries this livery in 2018) Black. WMT (operationally separate from LNWR by this point) brand to be used additionally on XC services to Nottingham and Leicester (stopper only). This livery was known as Large Logo livery as each side of the locomotive was dominated by a full body height BR double arrow symbol, and had the loco number prominently displayed at twice the previous size. Feb 1, 2020. Class 35 'Hymek' D7017 restored to 1960's green & lime livery. During 2020, in the midst of the COVID-19 pandemic, all passenger train operating companies (TOCs) entered into Emergency Recovery Measures Agreements with the UK and Scottish Governments. The pleasure's all mine. The BR Saint & TPO Livery Pack adds additional liveries to the GWR Saint & TPO add-on, enabling you to recreate realistic travelling post office operations in the British Railway era. [6], The Vale of Rheidol Railway remained steam operated past the general end of steam traction in 1968; Accordingly the three remaining Vale of Rheidol Railway steam locomotives (Class 98) received the Rail Blue colour scheme and the double arrow logo on their side tanks. A mock-up for the British Railways Mark 2 stock was displayed at the Design Centre, 28 Haymarket, London, (the showrooms of the Council of Industrial Design) in 1964. Sponsor Post - registered members do not see these adverts; And although BR did changes, it was still the same basic livery really. This has been confirmed by records held at the National Railway Museum. For locomotives used on internal British Rail duties, a separate livery of a plain darker grey was created. Question for the designers. There is surely a case at least for putting the cross-border inter-city services in national colours (perhaps an updated take on Network SouthEast), to match the saltires splashed all over Scotrail trains. [7], The reorganisation does not affect Northern Ireland, where the railway is already operated by the vertically integrated and already wholly state-owned Northern Ireland Railways. InterCity (or, in the earliest days, the hyphenated Inter-City) was introduced by British Rail in 1966 as a brand-name for its long-haul express passenger services (see British Rail brand names for a full history).. Beattie acknowledges how Ulsters separate unionist parties weaken the Union. This is "straight out of 1975": I'm inclined to disagree there. GBR will own all stations and most infrastructure in Great Britain. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The old BR liveries look dated now and have done for a while. Brunswick Green. This colour was applied to all diesel and electric locomotives, with the exception of the ends, which were painted yellow to improve visibility, and the underframes and buffer beams which were painted black; the paints being to BSS 2660-0.003 and BSS 2660-9.103 respectively. [18] GBR will own all infrastructure in Scotland and Wales that Network Rail owns now. This included many of the features which were later incorporated in the Mark 2, and trialled in an experimental train designated XP64. You are using an out of date browser. In October 2021, the Secretary of State for Transport announced a competition to find a location for the headquarters of Great British Railways outside of London. In the early years the colour faded quite badly, becoming lighter and paler with time although this problem had been overcome by the late 1970s. From 1956 maroon (similar to crimson lake) was adopted as the standard colour for coaching stock, with corridor coaches lined and non-corridor plain initially: later on all stock was lined. Except their is massive nostalgia for BR days. And it that light it is intriguing that Ministers have. The text won't be centred vertically with the logo. Also, yes, the actual report has a typo, it really does say 'refect' instead of 'reflect'. As built it was a sort of purplish-red stripe with a lighter red shadow, then this changed to solid red in the late 90s/early 2000s. GBR will absorb Network Rail, although overall strategic direction on infrastructure investment and fares strategy will remain with government. And although BR did changes, it was still the same basic livery really. People are understandably sceptical about the frequent rebranding . In 1977 two Class 47 locomotives, 47163 and 47164, were painted by Stratford TMD with silver roofs and other decorations including a full body height Union Flag on each side, in celebration of Queen Elizabeth II's silver jubilee. This error in colour identification comes from an article and question published in a Model Railway Magazine in the 1950s, where the responding editor made the error, and it has frequently been repeated since then. The devolved administrations, the combined authorities, and the Greater London Authority will continue to exercise their current powers, such as setting fares and awarding contracts, and will remain democratically accountable for this. I think in Germany it is done by using the "TOC" name in place of IC etc. The British Isles in my old school geography books included the island of Ireland but I wouldn't have said that in my recent visit to the country! Dedicated station management teams will be created within regional divisions of GBR to manage stations and land. Which does what it says on the tin. Could GBRTT be right for you? Official Description. Whatever its failings and they were multitude branding was one thing British Rail took seriously and was remarkably good at. The current lot is an absolute mess. I suppose they are quite bland. Judging from the signage and station painting they will choose something somewhere between boring and ugly, and we will be stuck with it everywhere, for ages. GBR is not quite the same, so they no doubt want it to be seen as distinct; plus, it may not even be possible to call it BR, there might be legal implications (just a guess). Most of this nostalgia is from people who aren't old enough to remember just how rubbish latter day BR often was. 1 Pre-corporate liveries 2 Early liveries 2.1 Coaching stock from 1948 2.2 The second phase 2.3 XP64 3 Rail Blue 3.1 Locomotives 3.2 Coaches and multiple units 3.3 Local variations 4 Moving away from Rail Blue 5 Sectorisation 5.1 InterCity 5.2 Network SouthEast 5.3 Regional Railways 5.4 Rail Express Systems 5.5 Railfreight Pre-corporate liveries Goodbye. [8][9], A fortnight before the WilliamsShapps Plan for Rail was unveiled, the Department for Transport gave notice of a 6.5million contract for Deloitte up to February 2023 as its "strategic change delivery partner: rail reform programme". Last week Doug Beattie, the newly-installed leader of the Ulster Unionist Party, hit out at Boris Johnson. [7], Under Network Rail, all stations are formally in public hands since 2014, but only 20 (mainly large termini and central stations) are managed directly by it. If Scotland leaves the UK it must become British Rail as Britain is defined as just England & Wales! But the move still opens up some possibilities which Michael Gove and the rest of the Governments Union strategy team should consider. [citation needed]. In 1957 this changed to maroon with yellow markings and in 1963 bauxite with white lettering was adopted. On the face of it, this is primarily a reorganisation of the franchise system in England control over passenger franchises in Scotland and Wales is, alas, devolved. I have heard that the BR double arrows will remain in use due to the fact that in the UK everyone recognises it as the 'train station' symbol. By 2020s Britain, I mean a design that is reflective of modern day marketing and branding. London Midland (pre LNR), that was white on black but the same idea. Then theres the question of livery. One overarching brand, with sub brands sitting below it, for long distance services and regional brands all under the GBR moniker, much like we do today with Southern, South Eastern, South Western, Northern, etc. We need a sense of professionalism and togetherness, one branding brings that. It'll be operated quite differently. The Tories, particulary this present mob of throwbacks, have long since co-opted the "great" in "Great Britain" to mean "very good"and its xenophobic, imperialist undertones make me want to vomit. GBR will be made up of five regional divisions, organised in line with Network Rail's Putting Passengers First programme. Copyright 2023 Great British Railways Transition Team. And the more I see RA2 and its symbols, the more clumsy it looks. Id like GN non-Moorgate stuff to join Greater Anglia, as they dont fit in LNER imo. Well Id have thought it might be GBR Northern or GBR Southern. The United Kingdom is defined clearly on the passport .. the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. For example, the Midland Railway abolished Second-class on 1 st . But we know that anyway - ScotRail is blue based, as was Regional Railways. The train is operated by the Steam Dreams Rail Co. Mayflower built in 1948, is one of two surviving B1 Class locomotives and painted in distinctive British Railways apple green livery. Now the charge of English nationalism is a tedious, largely Remainer trope that I have dealt with elsewhere. Because it's not going to be the same as BR. But thats the insidious appeal of nationalism: it willalwaysbe easier, in the short term, to spurn complicating national attachments in favour of tacking to local winds and making off with as much cash as you can lay your hands on. JavaScript is disabled. I am confident I could design a better package in a few hours, and I am not a design professional. They retained this livery for some years, before being painted in Rail Blue when that became the norm. There was a return of some regional schemes: the Western Region turned out some Mk1 sets for named expresses in chocolate/cream, similar to that used by the GWR before nationalisation. Class 14s D9537 (in desert sand livery) and D9539 prepare a double-head a train on the Ribble Steam Railway. There's rather a lot to list if you want to do it completely! Also on the Eastern Region, Class 55 Deltic locomotives based at Finsbury Park acquired white surrounds to their cab windows. I can sort of understand lumping Moorgate services in with London Overground, but LNER to Kings Lynn has been suggested many times without any compelling reason as to why, beyond "something something intercity standard", This idea often seems to pop its head up. The iconic London and North Eastern Railway brand - better known as LNER - looks set to be withdrawn again. I might take an example railway station (I'm thinking Rugby) and design signage made for that specific station, to see how things could look practically Not convinced. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I don't think there would ever be multiple logos for Great British Railways as you've alluded to - it would make it complicated for the end passenger. I personally like this Lion logo posted by Tim Dunn on twitter a few years ago, Not at all. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The old Northern signs worked well, but only Metro/WYCA really got behind the co-branding opportunities, that I saw. "Great" means "large", not "very good". Different NSE style local/commuter networks round the country. But the point is that effort has gone into developing a brand and what it stands for, it isn't just harking back to the awful 1970s, a time people seem to be seeing with a large pair of rose tinted spectacles. Still makes me cringe everytime I see/read 'Great' in front of anything British since this mob got in. [4] One locomotive, Class 47 No.D1733, was painted to match the coaching stock. It does look better than red. After contacting GBRTT (Transition Team), I have been informed of their intention to create a new livery. Something will need to be kept open for Open Access Operators to be distinguished. [14] After this date, the passenger versions of Class 37 and 47, as well as Class 50, were routinely outshopped in this livery. It's only as complicated as you want it to be. It appears that while the plan is to brand all trains under GBR with one branding, that plan involves a much longer time scale: People are understandably sceptical about the frequent rebranding of trains and stations carried out under the privatised system, so the branding will be introduced alongside other improvements. The livery was carried on the rolling stock, but also on a number of locomotives which were dedicated to mail and parcels traffic, mainly of Classes 47 and 90. The UK, Britain, Great Britain, The British Isles, England - what's the difference? I do also like the theory that these regions they mention will be named after old railway companies. However, these bodies will be required to coordinate with GBR to deliver a single national rail network, including one website and app, as well as following national branding and passenger standards. It may not display this or other websites correctly. A throwback to the 70s and 80s can sometimes work, but not often, but I think. This isn't true, there have been subtle changes. The rail system is a public service not an art gallery. Construction of the first locomotive was completed in the final week of September 1957, and the handing-over took place on 31 October. Corridor coaching stock and certain express multiple unit classes were painted in Rail Blue with a 44-inch Pearl Grey (BS 2660-9-095) horizontal panel centred vertically on the main windows, outlined by a narrow white line. Great Britain is not a country; its a landmass. Eventually, it was decided to standardise on a colour which became known as Rail Blue. Regional divisions will manage concession contracts, stations, infrastructure, and local and regional budgets, integrate track and train, and integrate rail with local transport services. I personally do not think there should be a standard livery across the network on the grounds that regional identity would be lost. It'll be operated quite differently. The concession contract system will be the long-term replacement for the previous system of passenger rail franchising run by the Department for Transport, which became unsustainable early in 2020 during the COVID-19 pandemic. Also, like I said, it's possible that they legally can't call it BR. With the publication of the Williams review and the announcement of the renationalization of British Passenger Rail, i thought i might help out anyone exited for new liveries or branding for trains. Likes Received: 1,930. I'm not convinced "InterCity" services warrant different branding now, as they are no longer of premium quality in terms of service provision; in many case they're just regional or commuter services (thinks XC and GWR in particular). | Page 15 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. The old Northern signs worked well, but only Metro/WYCA really got behind the co-branding opportunities, that I saw. Someone will design a great livery in the future and someone else will design a crap livery. Quick reference Livery Guide for Nameplates and transfers available in 4mm/00 scale. "Great" means "large", not "very good". the report stated that there would be some update to the double arrow, though not what that update would be. I tried going with the National Rail icon in the right hand side, but it was too small and nobody would notice it. [13] Initially new locos were still painted in the traditional Rail Blue livery, but starting with Class 56 number 56084 the new Large Logo version was standard on new locos delivered to BR. TL:DR - if your a british collector, and you paint your own, PUT THE STRIPPER DOWN. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Read about the differences between Britain, the. It looks like BR. The white paper does not specify whether the branding of devolved railways such as London Overground and Merseyrail will be affected.[7]. Several Class 31 locomotives received white waist stripes, these being When British Rail operations were divided into sectors in the mid-1980s, prior to privatisation, a new version of the Railfreight livery emerged giving the sectors individual identities. Messages: 1,398. Standing on the sidelines of national politics and shouting is just what capital-U Unionism does now. White letters on a navy background is the way to go. Underneath that in a smaller font, about half the height of the space between the botton track and the bottom of the arrow "Operated by [whomever] for Great British Railways". 1948 -. The Transport Secretary announced on 19 October 2022 that the Transport Bill which would have set up GBR would not go ahead in the current parliamentary session.[2]. With the reorganisation of British Railways in the mid-1960s, a complete break with the past was signalled by the introduction of a blue and grey livery which dominated all passenger rolling stock until the mid-1980s, when a new Intercity livery (dark grey and beige with a red and white waistband) was introduced along with a number of regional colour schemes. I dont think we will see train liveries being changed for a while. 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Something timeless. Nothing to bring it all together. into flashy advertising campaigns, the appearance of the showrooms (and their digital counterpart, the website), and the styling of their vehicles? [7], GBR will use a slightly modified British Rail Double Arrow and the Rail Alphabet 2 typeface for branding. In the days of signs being hand painted/stencilled on enamel I would agree, but it is so much easier to make stuff look good these days that there is really no excuse for this sort of thing. The final decision was to be made later in 2022,[16] but the result has not been announced as of February 2023. But then every time I look at a train, I'll think of a bus. In 1978 the British Railways Board began planning a new livery for the future, and in that August Class 56 diesel locomotive 56036 was painted to test a modified livery[11][12] of all-over Rail Blue with the entire loco front in bright yellow to improve visibility, this extending down the sides of the loco to the rear of the cab windows which were, in turn, outlined in black. JavaScript is disabled. A later version added a red stripe along the lower edge of the locomotive bodyside. I'm unsure about the livery as such, but if Great British Railways is taken forward, I'd expect 'GBR' to feature. I think there would be huge advantages of a standard livery and branding across the Britain, in saving money and presenting a unified product to the customer. If they are going down the GBR route, which is just nationalisation with extra steps, it needs to look the part (the national part, not the extra steps part). If only we were to see a coherent joined up livery scheme to run nationwide like the picture above , however I rather suspect this will not be the case. Rail alphabet had the advantage of being clear, legible and was pretty much consistently applied. It might have the operator identified in a small way too. Yes i like it, very clean and professional looking. Because it's not going to be the same as BR. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Once we lose TOC branding I certainly think service categories need to return, if only on the Dutch basis of them only describing service patterns rather than anything else. Because it was a nationalised industry run by the British Government. For 2mm/N equivalents, change the start of the reference number FRH4 for FRH2. This was later modified for locomotives allocated to the Civil Engineer's department to include a yellow stripe on the upper bodyside, the resulting livery being known as "Dutch" due to its similarity to the corporate colours of the Nederlandse Spoorwegen.[18]. The Great British Railways Transition Team (GBRTT) seeks to deliver the most ambitious changes to our railways in a generation, working with the government and across the rail sector. The livery comprised brown upper panels with a colour described variously as "biscuit" or "fawn" along the lower panels and separated by a broad orange band. The purpose of this call for evidence was to develop an understanding of how much of the current and future market demand for freight could be met by rail, and the role rail can play in the nations supply chains. I'm working on building a GBR brand from the ground up for the next few days (my calendar is completely empty), starting with a logo. I wonder if you could make a hybrid of the two? No complaints really over the Rail Alphabet, I even like seeing it on old BR signage that still exists here and there. Cross Country merged with EMT to form a brand called Midland Connect. If it was, that format would not be used by: If you need any proof, they've also just done the same with 'Great British Nuclear'. I just see the thing as extremely surface level. OK, it's not a big change, but Germany tends to do rebrandings very infrequently. Multiple units were also generally green, although this tended to be a lighter and bluer shade compared to the colour used on steam and diesel locomotives. Its not as if they need the advertising, nor do their brands carry the historic and emotional heft that the famous schemes of the genuinely private railways did. The anniversary of the Battle of Hastings which took place in 1066 was also used in publicity for the line. The rebranding of British Railways to British Rail on 1 January 1965 was coupled with the introduction of an entirely new national livery. Historic fact is that Roman Britain was England & Wales and the name Great Britain was adopted once Scotland joined, even though today we may refer of GB as just Britain. And if Northern are still running trains to Glasgow, a new paint job would be a great moment for the Government to stump up for good rolling stock. The history of British Rail's corporate liveries is quite complex. Oct 22, 2021 All that remains, is to remember the man who made the Journey possible; the greatest engineer of all time and the architect who built modern Britain - Isambard Kingdom Brunel. The new livery was used with the introduction of the Hastings Line electrification in 1986 to promote new electric trains on that line. Plus what is one persons opinion of a great livery will be different to the next. | Page 23 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. Other examples are available Once they'd ditched single colour liveries, they didn't really do anything that wasn't ", One can only hope for a Sectorised return to NSE. There have also been subtle font changes. though we may have to wait for a new govt for that to happen. One of the worst liveries they ever carried, never seen a HST look so poor. But Beatties second charge is more interesting. Despite the InterCity brand having been introduced in 1966, in 1985 the word 'Executive' was dropped and the livery was applied to all coaches and many locomotives used on InterCity services. For example, GWRs London to Bristol, Penzance, Cardiff, Oxford etc might be wrapped up with a GBR Express or GBR Intercity, but the GWR commuter/regional services under a different brand name. But do you think Queen Nicola would accept trains branded as "Rail England" coming across the border? What is of 2020s Britain then? It appears that while the plan is to brand all trains under GBR with one branding, that plan involves a much longer time scale: . Today I would like to make a rather general suggestion rather than something specific. This idea often seems to pop its head up. Recognising this, the Plan for Rail recommended the development of a 30-year strategy to determine how best the railways can support Britain in the future. The WilliamsShapps plan recommended that there will be a single, unifying brand for railways, and it is expected that this will be a gradual rebranding over time. This includes transport, with the first Union Connectivity Review being published earlier this year. A livery, similar to ScotRail but with the upper dark grey bodyside replaced with a dark blue, was created. Bare minimum, low effort. Read more about them in our, National HQ competition for Great British Railways. I don't think the red understripe would appear though, and there will still be calls from TfGM, WYCA TfWM, TfW, etc. We need more national institutions to give a British shape to life, and GBR should be one of them. The coaches for the XP64 train were painted in a slightly lighter version of what would eventually become Rail Blue, with a 44-inch-wide (1,100mm) Pale Ivory stripe centred on the passenger windows, and brown underframe. Our railways play a fundamental role in supporting the economic, environmental and social achievements of the country. It's good work (and the previous set). 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